Super Human Fathers

Justin Koeppen: I couldn't give
everything my fan to my family.

So I was like, okay, well,
let me wake up at three.

And still I was like, you know what?

I can give more.

Um, and it kind of pushed
into two 45, sometimes two 30.

Um, and what I noticed is I was, uh, I
was just as alert and awake at two 30 in

the morning, two 45 in the morning, as I
was at five, five 30 in the morning, six

o'clock in the morning, um, I felt better.

Because I was, when my head hit the
pillow at nine, ten o'clock, um, at

night, I might have only gotten four
and a half, five hours of sleep,

but, um, I was actually getting
the exact same amount of sleep.

My deep sleep, my REM cycle, my, all my,
what I wasn't doing is I'm not waking

up in the middle of the night anymore.

Kyle Carnohan: Welcome to the Superhuman
Father's Transformation Podcast.

If you're listening to this, you're
about to witness some of the most

incredible transformations that have
ever happened on the planet, and just

by listening to this, you will be
inspired to have your own transformation.

If you're listening to this for the
first time, or you're one of the brothers

in the brotherhood, go leave a review
on the podcast and let the brother or

member know how amazing they did and
how incredible their transformation was.

I'm Kyle Carnahan, founder of
Superhuman Fathers, and not only

am I gonna change your life, I'm
gonna get you ripped as fuck.

Ryan Carnohan: I don't know the full
background of how Justin knows my brother,

Eric or how, you know, I don't know.

I just like water polo.

And all I know is I talked to
this guy a few months back and he

just was like, okay, very like.

articulate and ask these questions and it
was just kind of like, okay, okay, okay.

You know, like, no, I just could
tell he's noting everything down.

And then he was just like, go.

And I was like, okay, what's,
what's going to happen?

And I watched this guy.

You guys, did you see that picture?

I mean, he went from
like, he's a heartthrob.

Justin Koeppen: And so, and like,

Ryan Carnohan: and the, the
outside appearance is nothing.

Like, all of a sudden, I
think it was a few weeks in.

We're starting to post our
early wake ups and like Kyle and

I, you know, we're like 4, 4.

30, this is before Kyle was doing his 2.

45.

Guess who was doing 2.

45 before Kyle?

Justin started posting 2.

45.

And I was like, holy shit.

And he is just, and,
and he just showed up.

He just kept moving.

And, uh, we're going to hear where,
maybe where, when the mindset changed.

And, um,

yes, yes.

Who's that?

Oh, I just muted somebody.

I'm sorry.

Yeah.

Cory.

Cory.

Was that you?

Sorry, Cory.

Justin Koeppen: Yeah, dude,
that was, that was me.

I, I gotta get clarification here.

Talk to me about this 2 45.

Shit.

What the hell is that?

?
Ryan Carnohan: Well, Justin's
about to tell you, bro.

.
Justin Koeppen: Okay, I wanna
hear it from Justin then.

2 45.

So for, hey, for me, I don't
even post that number anywhere.

Like, I don't, I don't even
want people to know that shit.

Ryan Carnohan: Sounds like
the bar's being raised.

Justin Koeppen: Nobody should do that.

Unless, unless you have a vision
for something that requires it.

Like it requires, I
require it for the work.

I have to do it.

It's a must.

Otherwise I can't get it done.

So, so, so Justin, are you
doing 2 45 every morning?

Um, okay, so let, let, let, let's
start off with the 2 45 thing.

Uh, uh, the answer to that
is, okay, we're going into it.

Not right now.

I'm at, uh, I'm at three
o'clocks during the weekdays

and four o'clock on a weekend.

My goal is always four o'clock or
before no matter what, whether I'm

on vacation, no matter what it is.

Um, why 245?

Well, one, uh, for those that
don't know, I'm a teacher.

I teach high school mathematics.

So, um, I basically teach the
world's worst subject and force

it upon an unwilling audience.

So it, which requires a lot more
than just, You know, show up and

kind of give this information.

I got to be creative.

I'm giving this, uh, this information
stuff, but I'm a very, I've always

been kind of a morning person.

Um, water polo or aquatic sports
for anybody that's done them.

Um, know that even in high school,
you tend to start workouts at

five o'clock in the morning.

Um, so I've always been, you know,
five, six o'clock in the morning, even,

uh, even before superhuman fathers.

Uh, but the concept
behind, um, I kind of took.

This, this, you know, giving everything
for your family and it became my purpose.

So, um, I started off at like 3.

30 in the morning and then
I was like, you know what?

I just, I can't get everything
I want to get done before I

got to hit the gym at four.

Cause I'll do the gym from four to 5.

30 and then I'll jump in the pool from 5.

30 till about 6.

45.

Um, before heading off to work,
um, but I, I couldn't give

everything my fan to my family.

So I was like, okay, well,
let me wake up at three.

And still I was like, you know what?

I can give more.

Um, and it kind of pushed
into two 45, sometimes two 30.

Um, and what I noticed is I was, uh, I
was just as alert and awake at two 30 in

the morning, two 45 in the morning, as I
was at five, five 30 in the morning, six

o'clock in the morning, um, I felt better.

Because I was, when my head hit the
pillow at nine, ten o'clock, um, at

night, I might have only gotten four
and a half, five hours of sleep,

but, um, I was actually getting
the exact same amount of sleep.

My deep sleep, my REM cycle, my, all my,
what I wasn't doing is I'm not waking

up in the middle of the night anymore.

I'm not, uh, I'm not tossing and
turning to fall asleep, and I'm

not tossing and turning to wake
up trying to keep myself asleep.

I'm...

My feet hit the floor, I pop up.

Now, granted, I do go through
a pot of coffee in the morning.

One pot.

Now, that's because I love coffee.

Um, I don't think I need a
whole pot to get me going.

I kind of feel the energy of my
morning, but I also love mornings.

Um, I love the idea that I get to do
stuff while everybody else is sleeping.

And, uh, for the most part, my routine is.

Wake up, start with a pot of coffee,
make sure the entire downstairs because

the whole family sleeps upstairs.

The whole downstairs is,
uh, is completely clean.

I start making, um, lunches for my
family, um, before I head out to the gym.

So that whole routine, um, sets
me up for just saying, hey, my

first task is finished today.

Um, and my first task has helped.

Everybody in my household,
uh, for success.

So, is it, is it crazy?

I, I, I don't know anybody else that's
doing it until I've really met Kyle.

Um, but for me, it's, it's what I enjoy.

I, that is my favorite part of the day.

Um, I also found that through that
waking up early, because you're kind

of, you're, you're pushing yourself
through, you know, near 20 hour days,

um, towards the evening, I was pushing
my mind and my body, especially

early on, I was pushing my mind and
my body through a lot of failures,

um, with, with things like patience.

with things like, um, with things like
just being actively engaged with my

family because, uh, being actively
engaged when you're, when you're just

absolutely exhausted is difficult.

So my kids, my kids will be like wanting
to play or do stuff and I'm like, My son

says, Hey dad, let's play a video game.

And I sit down and try
to play a video game.

That's how I'm like, do we
need to play something else?

Let's go out and play catch.

Because if I sit here, I'm going to fall
asleep playing a video game, but I won't

fall asleep with you playing catch.

So it kind of, it kind of forced us to
get more active, um, cause it was the

only way I was going to stay awake.

Um, but it, it pushed me through
a lot of, uh, different failures

and different things that, um,
that I've, I kind of pushed the

limits there and I, I grew from it.

So that was kind of nice as well.

That's where the 2 45 thing came in.

That, that's

Ryan Carnohan: just me, savage, dude.

I love it.

Impressive, impressive, impressive.

We'll get more into it in a moment.

Go Kyle.

It it just, dude,

Justin Koeppen: I, I just
know when I'm up that

Ryan Carnohan: my homie's up too.

.
Justin Koeppen: Hey, that magic,
that magic time from 2, 4, 5

to four, bro, the, that's like.

Oh, it's something in the air.

Something in the air.

I can, I'm so creative.

Like I can write like I'm in Delta and I'm
just like working and getting shit done.

No one's bothering me, bro.

That that's me during the summer.

I'm waking up early
and I've never planned.

I've never planned for a Like, done
a lot of work on planning for the

next school year, and I'm just,
I've read, I've read like three,

I've read three and listened to two
professional development books already

this summer, never done that before.

I'm just taking stuff in and redesigning
an entire structure of how to teach and

how students can learn and stuff, really
hoping to make an impact this year.

But yeah, again, same thing, 2.

45 to 4 o'clock, creativity is
outrageously high at that point.

So I fill that zone.

And I think the point here, like,
the principle is, like, is, is

one, you're getting a lot done.

And two, like, you're, that's
warrior monk life, man.

Like, uh, when he talks about playing
with his kids in the evening, like,

I love that shit where I can be
like, I can just turn myself off.

Like, my pain and suffering,
I just turn it off.

I'm like, you have no say here.

I will do what's right
right now regardless.

I will act appropriately.

I will react appropriately even
in my greatest state of suffering.

And what do we always say?

Man that can't suffer, can't lead.

And so, I choose to suffer,
to, to build the suffer muscle.

And that's what, that's what
he's talking about, man.

I'm not saying everybody should do
that, but the principle is there.

Push yourself, you know?

Like, lit.

Create your own boot
camp in your daily life.

Like, make your life
hard, cause we're soft.

We are so soft.

Anyway, thank you, I love it.

It's nice to have, uh, somebody in
the, uh, in the pain cave with me.

Ryan Carnohan: The warrior monk.

Okay, well, some of you guys also
need to know about Justin, too.

It's like, you look at that first
picture and you would never know

that he was so competitive at, like,
pretty elite level in water polo.

And that's what, you know, he, he
has a history playing my brother

plays and I don't even know what I
can't, you'll have to explain that

Justin, I don't know what kind of
league it is, but like, it's legit.

Yeah, like, like, he was like with
the best guys, you know, the college

young college kids killing it.

And he went from the
first picture to playing.

In a legit tournament with all these guys
in just a few months and crushing it.

So it's very inspiring.

He is, uh, the definition of warrior
monk, and I love that message.

And I feel, um, the push to continuously.

Sit in the suffering and in the
growth, the growth zone with my

kids, even when like when my daughter
wants to play tag, I think of you,

Justin, I go, Yes, I will play tag.

I will play tag.

So, all right, let's
kind of get into this.

We're gonna get a little backstory.

So Justin, we already kind of touched
on being a teacher, but maybe, how'd

you hear about Superhuman Fathers?

And what was your biggest driver?

In participating in the program.

Justin Koeppen: So, um, Oh man.

Uh, so I, I had known for a while
that the pandemic hit me pretty

hard, you know, distance learning
is, um, or distance teaching is, uh,

for anybody, you know, everybody,
obviously a lot of you have kids,

many of you probably experienced that.

That is absolute terror for children.

And it was pretty much
terror for teachers as well.

Um, and I, I got into some very, very
poisonous, toxic routines, uh, between,

oh, you know, overeating, drinking a lot.

Sitting around, uh, not wanting to get
just sloth, gluttonous, selfish behaviors

left and right, um, and I, I had decided,
you know, I, I need to do something and I,

I went out and I tried out for, um, well,
you know, Ryan and Kyle's bro, brother,

Eric, uh, runs a water polo program with a
couple other guys I know from college and

I actually know their brother from, um,
I actually ran a water polo program that

their brother was a part of at one point.

Um, but now he's running the
program and I asked, Hey, you

know, can I try out for this team?

So I go to this tournament and, uh, I
get placed on the B team and, um, I'm

like, Oh man, I was kind of hoping to
play with like guys like Eric, you know,

but they're on the A team and they're all
fit and doing well and stuff like that.

And I noticed that going
to that tournament, um, I

noticed how happy they were.

Um, they were fit.

They were happy.

They seem to be like.

Enjoying who they were and what
they were doing in their lives.

Um, and I noticed that
that wasn't me anymore.

I used to have something like that.

It felt like ages ago.

And it wasn't me anymore.

Um, and so I started talking to these
guys and, and, and, you know, Eric

contacts me and says, Hey, can I put
you in touch with my brother Kyle?

And I go, you know what,
why don't you do that?

Why don't you, why don't you
send me his number and stuff?

I want to get in touch
with, uh, with Kyle.

That's fine.

And, um, Kyle calls me up.

We have a chat and everything.

And I'm, I'm thinking going into this.

This is just another fitness program.

And I've done some fitness programs
and stuff like that before and it never

works for me because all those fitness
programs seem to be geared towards your

selfishness of making your body nicer.

And that's not who I am.

I can't, I can't do stuff for me.

Unless they're gluttonous and toxic
for me, that seems to be the easy

thing to do for me, but unless
it's that, I don't do it for me.

Like, if I gotta work hard,
I never work hard for myself.

And I, and Kyle kind of presented
this at a different way.

He was like, Hey, you know, the
fitness is just the outside thing.

Um, you're going to get that.

But, um, what you're going to be is
you're going to be an awesome dad.

What you're going to be is you're
going to be an awesome husband.

What you're going to be is you're going
to be an awesome, you know, teacher.

This, that, and because you're going
to learn how to be those things

and your body is going to grow
with your mind and your spirit.

And I, I, I was like, Oh, cool.

You know, I, I talked to him.

Um, and I was like, well, let me
call you back and I'll let you

know if I want to do the program.

And I hung up with them and like five
minutes later, I sent him a message.

I said, yeah, I don't even know why I
said I needed time to think about this.

I don't need time to think about this.

I need this.

Um.

I need to be a better human being.

I need to be a better father to my kids.

I need to be a better husband to my wife.

Um, I need to be a better
teacher to my students.

then what I was giving.

Um, and I, as I told my students
at the end of the last year, you

know, I started this up in December.

And so by June, I'm telling my
students, I say, guys, I'm sorry.

Uh, I said, I, I only gave you half of
a year of me becoming a better person.

I gave you a half of a year of me
just being a garbage human being.

And I apologize for that.

Um, So, you know, and I kind of,
you know, I kind of be giving that

to my wife and my kids as well.

And, um, you know, that's,
that's kind of where I was at.

I mean, depression and everything
was hitting low and, uh,

I needed to get out of it.

So that's where I got on board.

Ryan Carnohan: Rad.

Okay.

So you go through the program, you, I
mean, you, you instantly went after it.

What do you think the biggest change?

in your life was that you experienced
and how quickly did it come on?

Was it in the beginning?

You know, what, what would you say there?

Justin Koeppen: Oh man,
there's a lot of big changes.

Um, uh, well sequence of
kind of pivotal points.

Um, first pivotal point was the acceptance
of The struggle I was gonna go through.

Um, I, I was, it was hurting at
the beginning, it took about like

four to six weeks, and it finally
hit that, you know what, accept it.

It's, it's gonna be the way you're gonna
live, because that's who you're gonna be.

You're gonna live in this.

Um.

And that was kind of a big point because
it kind of turned the corner of like my I

was able to get up earlier and I started
pushing my limits even harder because

I was like, Well, I'm gonna go through
it, you know, um, the next big point

was kind of when my wife got on board.

She was not on board and very
unhappy with me for joining up.

Because I didn't talk to her about
the cost or anything like that.

And she was like, you just threw
away all that money, you know, and

she told me I wasn't going to do it,
this and that, uh, because of all the

behaviors I've had before and all the
things I've shown her before, I would

have been the guy that didn't commit.

Um, And, uh, and about, probably about
three months in, when she started

seeing that I was staying with it,
um, she started accepting and being

on board with it as well, and noticing
how much it was changing me, and how

I was handling How I was handling
my honesty, um, I will, I always had

trouble being honest with my wife, you
know, I would be, I would know in my

heart that I wasn't living up to what
I could, and I would do, you know, some

stupid thing and I would try to hide it.

And she noticed I wasn't
trying to do that anymore.

Um, and I was just constantly
staying consistent.

You know, I was consistent, inconsistent,
same time, every single morning, on the

weekends, um, doing the exact same things.

Um, and she was just like, like,
what else could you possibly

be doing except for this?

Um, and.

The way I was talking to her, the way
I was talking to my kids, uh, that was

kind of a huge pivotal point of going,
this is working, um, and I need more.

So, that, that breakdown, having
that better connection with my wife.

has really been a big,
um, a big growth for me.

Um, and, uh, that, that, that, that
makes it all worth it right there.

Just one relationship makes it worth it.

Ryan Carnohan: Let's dig
into that a little more.

I love that.

You said something about how you
weren't, you weren't, weren't able to

be honest with your wife before, and now
you are, so why couldn't you be honest

with your wife prior to this program?

And why?

What, how did that change?

Justin Koeppen: Um, I, it really
comes down to kind of shame.

Um, I was, I, I, I was ashamed of
what I, what I was doing, what I

was, uh, who I was, um, and I was
ashamed of what I was giving her.

She didn't deserve that person.

Um, you know, she, my
wife works her ass off.

She's an, uh, an emergency room RN
and she's constantly dealing with BS

every single day with just, you know.

People and all their problems and stuff
like that and uh, she takes the brunt

of it and then and then she comes home
and And the person she was dealing with

was just another one of her like semi
rude patients um, and and she didn't

deserve that she worked too, you know,
she works hard and um, She needs she

deserves coming home to somebody that
uh, that that You know, cares and that

can, you know, provide her support.

And I, I wasn't that person.

I was causing her more stress.

Um, and, uh, and so I would hide it,
you know, I would hide the stupid things

that I would do, you know, I would, and.

That would, um, that would, it would
always linger, you know, it, it, you

know, eventually you hide stuff long
enough, it comes out and then it's a big

explosive bite because it's on you and
you, you become defensive and your walls.

And, you know, we've talked about
this during the, during the marriage

parts and everything, and you're just
like, it just, it's a big blow out.

And it just, it's cyclic as well.

It happens all the time.

You're like, I don't know
why I can't get out of this.

Um, and now I feel like I
am, I'm like, I'm out of it.

I don't have to deal with that anymore.

So, yeah.

It's beautiful, bro.

So, okay.

Ryan Carnohan: You were in that position.

At what point in the program
did that change, though?

Like, how quickly did that come on?

Was it a certain event?

Was it a certain
discussion with your wife?

Was it a countenance
that you provided her?

Was it something she noticed?

Because it's something
you changed in yourself.

Right?

That you, was it just that you didn't have
to lie anymore because you weren't doing

things she disagreed with or, or were
you just able to confidently share with

her what you believed you needed to do?

Justin Koeppen: That, that, that
second part right there, that

was kind of the turning point.

Uh, the turning point was when
she was, um, something came up

and, uh, and it was, it was about
doing Superhuman Fathers and stuff.

It was my early wake ups, you
know, I was starting to wake up 2.

30.

Uh, 2.

45 in the morning, um, and she got at it.

She got upset with me because
it was in the evening And I

kind of exploded on my kids.

I was exhausted.

Um, and she got upset with me She's
like this program is hurting you more

like sure you're getting into shape
and stuff and she said sure you're

but But you're snappy with your kids.

And I get it because my wife has been
in that place where she's gotten four

or five hours of sleep for weeks on
end and been snappy with the kids.

And she's like, you're hurting this.

You're hurting your
relationship with your kids.

And I heard her say that, and I
didn't get defensive about it.

It was that first time I kind of went.

I hear you.

You're right.

I was snappy with them.

And my problem isn't my early wake up.

I told her I'm, I'm sorry, my
problem isn't my early wake up.

I believe in that early wake up.

I'm doing it.

My problem is I'm not strong enough
yet to, to not snap at the kids.

Today I wasn't.

Um, tomorrow I'll be stronger.

Tomorrow I'll be just as tired.

I said, tomorrow I won't
be snappy with them.

Tomorrow I'm going to care for them and
I'm going to do it the right, right way.

And.

And we kind of got into it a little
bit, but it what would have became a

defensive explosive because I believed
so much in what I was doing, um, I was

just like, no, I'm going to work at this.

I'm going to get five hours of sleep
and I'm going to rock fatherhood.

I'm going to do it.

Um, cause I can't, I know I can't.

And she kind of absorbed it and took it.

And, you know, again, you go
through years of being one person.

I know I could see it in her
that she's like, okay, if you're

saying so, you've already kind of
made some transformation changes.

So maybe you can on this one,
but she doesn't truly believe it.

Um, but she lets me go on it and, and that
was kind of the first time that, uh, I

recognized that she was like, Oh, okay.

She's on board with this.

Oh, okay.

She's starting to see the changes in me.

Um, and I got a long way to go.

Um, my kids are the hardest part.

I was actually just talking to one of
my friends, uh, who we were like trying

to be awesome fathers, showing, showing
each other how good we were at father.

It was like a competition cause we
don't see each other all the time.

And, He had mentioned something about
them, and I say, could you imagine if,

uh, we tried to impress our wives with
our awesome fatherhood as much as we

just tried to impress each other with it?

I'm like, we would be awesome
at it all the time because our

wives are constantly around.

And, uh, and we were like, that's
it, that's the deal right there.

We're going to try to do that.

We're going to just impress our wives
with how awesome we are at being fathers.

Um, which means we're
not allowed to explode.

We're not allowed, you know, so, um,
it's still a big work in process.

That's my big relationship goal.

It's like, I've got to have
that patience all the time.

Um, and it's tough.

My kids can really irk me.

Ryan Carnohan: Uh, that was the most
beautiful thing I've ever heard, I think,

and, uh, I just love the confidence
that you are putting off right now,

and I know that, like, I felt, I
felt that, man, like, I can actually

concur 100%, because I was a man.

At which I know my wife looked
at me and was like, shit.

Yeah, that's the way you felt.

Oops.

And dude, that confidence, when you're
able to just be like, I just love that

so much where you heard, you said the
most powerful statement I think you

made in there was for the first time you
didn't react defensively, you heard her.

You were reflective, you held
the line, you know, in line

with your conscience and values.

And she saw, she saw that confident
man that she wanted and needed.

I was so savage, bro.

I just, thank you for teaching me that.

I'm going to remember that.

I'm going to, I'm going to try
to, you know, just hear my wife,

hear her and give her that.

Let's go.

Okay, man.

That was so good.

It got me all teared up, bro.

Okay.

I got to figure out where
the next question is.

Okay, let's go with this one.

And you may have already touched on this.

I'm going to skip this one.

We'll come back to it.

I'm going to go here.

If you were starting the program and
you can go back and give yourself one

piece of advice, what would it be?

Or any information?

Justin Koeppen: Um, one piece of
advice, one piece of information.

If I was to go back and start
it from the beginning or at

some part of the beginning, um,

Man, uh, follow it.

Like, the, I, I think
I did it the right way.

Like, follow exactly the way you feel.

Um, I dived into this with a feeling.

I dived into this with Kyle just hanging
up the phone with me and me going five

minutes later, I don't know what I'm,
I don't know why I need time to think.

I, I need this.

It was a feeling.

It felt so right to do it.

Um, every single day built into
it, it was just this feeling

that I was doing the right thing.

Um, just following that like
consciousness, um, Kyle actually put it

one way before he's like, he's like, you
sound like you just needed somebody to

tell you, you're allowed to live this way.

And I'm like, yeah, I did.

I needed somebody to make it okay.

So listen, every time I've had a
really good coach in my life or

a mentor, they took their belief.

And, and they, they looked at my life,
and they, they saw boundaries that I put

on myself, just the way I was raised,
like, that I just collected over years.

And they, they reach in, and
they give you belief, and they

shatter all the walls around you.

And that right there, um, that's key
to having great impact on other people.

And, number two, everyone
please listen to this.

The feeling.

This is...

This is the ultimate attribute of
an action taker and someone that

creates and impacts the world.

They have that feeling.

That voice is like, take action.

We're trained to make excuses.

The man that makes great
change like this just goes.

Doesn't think about the
risk, just pulls the trigger.

Look at our guys that You guys all have
stories, especially signing up for this,

where you're just like, like, F it.

I'm doing it.

Let's go.

Do that in every part of your life.

Every idea you have, a thought
crosses your mind, take action.

Just do it.

Thank you for sharing that, man.

That's so massive.

Yeah, so that, that, that, that's
exactly, you actually articulated that

a little bit better than I was thinking.

It was, it was a feeling, and if I
was to go back and give myself some

advices, stick with that feeling.

Go with that feeling.

It's okay.

You're going to live through
it, and you're going to...

Get stronger through it.

Um, and I, I followed that
feeling every day, unconsciously.

I didn't even know what I was
doing until I looked back on it and

go, I just kind of went with it.

Uh, and I didn't ask questions.

I didn't ask questions of Kyle.

I didn't ask questions of, of of Ryan.

I, they said, they said, do it this way.

I said, Roger that.

Let's go.

Uh, that's, I'm going to do that.

And then I just started doing stuff on
my own because I felt right to do it.

Um, and then I find out later on that,
Hey, hey, getting up at two 30 in

the morning, necessarily a bad thing.

Um, you know, Pushing harder in
the gym isn't really a bad thing.

And then I find out
other guys are doing it.

Like I started doing reading because
for some reason reading felt right.

And listening to more books felt right.

And then I find out other guys are doing
it, you know, and they're posting stuff.

And I'm like, holy cow, like these
things feel right because everybody else.

Who's growing is doing
these things as well.

So it must feel right to them.

So it was kind of confirmation.

Um, and, uh, yeah, when you do that,
that your creativity starts flowing,

your, your, your power starts flowing.

You, you get into these moments of,
uh, of, of like momentum where you're

just like, you're being carried.

in this zone and it's, it's so fantastic.

I mean, the only other times I felt that
I've never really felt that in life.

I have felt that in
sports, that zone area.

Um, but I start feeling
it in life a little bit.

I go to the gym and I'm like, holy cow,
I got this momentum behind me in the gym.

And then I leave and I
got these ideas flying.

I'm like, I got this momentum in my ideas.

And then I walk into my
classroom and I just start.

saying stuff to my students and I got
these ideas that are coming through

and these students are like captured
by it and it's not even math because

you know math is just one piece.

Um, but you know.

One more interruption.

Do you hear this?

This is called alignment.

This is called taking your mask
off, being real, and aligning

your life with your true self.

This is the power you get from
the universe to impact others.

This is it.

Right here.

Soak it up.

Sorry.

Ryan Carnohan: I have to
say something else too.

I love the phrase, be the discipline.

Like, don't have
discipline, be a discipline.

And so, what I've seen through
Justin is, it's for everybody else.

And so, as he lives this way, he
lights everybody else on fire.

Even his students, when it has
nothing to do with this program,

but it has everything to do with it.

Because they can see it.

They can see.

He just, he just talked about that flow
state, that flow state that you get

when you have purpose, like on a foot, a
football team, you have a dialed purpose.

It's dialed in.

Why wouldn't we live our lives like that?

Why wouldn't we live our lives like that?

Why would we wait for it to, you know,
there are people that sit on the couch

and only get that feeling watching sports.

They don't even know you're playing it.

Then there's the other
level, playing the sports.

Well, what if we made being the most
badass, successful father our sport?

Let's go.

Keep going, Justin.

You're killing it, bro.

Justin Koeppen: So, uh,
yeah, no, that, I mean...

I think I kind of goes over that one
question of what would I give that advice,

um, is that feeling, get it, be okay with
it, um, embrace it, embrace the feeling

that you have that you're doing the right
thing, um, and, and when, when you don't,

when you have that feeling that you're
doing the wrong thing, uh, evaluate.

Why does it feel wrong?

Are you being selfish?

Um, if so, cause I've
had that feeling too.

I, I think probably one of
your next questions and what

are the biggest struggles?

Um, and I have, I have dived into some
selfishness occasionally through this.

Um, you know, I, I, I start thinking
about, you know, I, I, You whether it's

food or whatever it's there might be um
food there might be um, you know limiting

myself on an exercise there might be
getting a little extra rest there might

be um wanting to just sit down my kids are
asking me to do something while my wife

is asking me to do something Um, and none
of them ask me to do anything rigorous.

They just want my company Um, and I find
myself going to selfishness sometimes

and I do get that feeling that I did
something, especially if I hung with it.

Like if I didn't, if I didn't take
action on their request to build my

relationship with them, I later on
feel that guilt and I, it felt wrong.

And I'm like, darn it, that's,
I should have worked on that.

I should have, that was the moment.

And that kind of hit a new epiphany
of like, when, when my mind says

that's the last thing I want
to do, um, I gotta go do that.

I gotta go do that thing.

My mom just, my, my mind just said.

Don't do that.

You don't want to do that.

No, I'm going to.

Just because I said I don't want
to, I'm going to go do that.

So, um, and that was
kind of my last big one.

My last big like, oh, moment where I'm
like, okay, hit another level right there.

Ryan Carnohan: And this is fun.

How in your, I guess you
kind of just answered it.

Cause the question goes like, how
do you, how are you in a space to be

present enough to identify those moments?

Justin Koeppen: Um, not always.

Uh, not always in that space.

And, uh, I notice I get further.

So, um, I, I guess the best
way to put it, it's, it's like

being near a campfire, right?

Uh, when you're in that space,
you're closer to the fire,

you're warm, it feels good.

But, but when it does feel good,
you feel okay to stray away from it.

So you walk away from the fire.

And as you walk away from the fire,
you, you do start feeling colder,

but you don't know it in the moment.

It takes a while for
that coldness to hit you.

And you're like, darn it.

Why did I go away from the fire?

I was warm there.

I was in the place.

I was with everybody.

It was so much lighter
there and better there.

I got to get back to the fire.

Um, so I've moved in and out and
you do, you fluctuate, you know,

you're like, you're hot and cold.

And I felt that.

And that's one of these times
where I go, okay, where do I start?

And I never knew, I felt this in the
past, but I never knew what to do with it.

And it always goes back
to that discipline.

So I always say, when I feel
cold, And I'm away from that fire.

I'm lacking on a discipline somewhere.

I'm screwing up on discipline and I need
a hammer and it might just be a little

tweak somewhere where I'm like, you know,
I might be waking up at, you know, I might

be like turning my, I find that I turn my,
there's some mornings I'm so exhausted.

I hit my alarm and I, my
feet don't hit the ground.

If my feet hit the ground, I'm up,
but my feet don't hit the ground.

And then I wake up like.

I was supposed to get up at 2 45 and I
wake up at four o'clock and I'm like,

darn it, you know, and I get upset.

Um, and if I do that a couple of days in
a row, that's a lack in my discipline.

Because.

I shouldn't do that a
couple days in a row.

I know myself, maybe one day was
a mistake and or more of like, oh,

you were just that darn exhausted.

Um, or, you know, I, it happened
this last time on the game.

Um, it is so, I, I think the
gain is way harder than the cut.

Um, the, the cut, you get
into the zone of just.

Embracing hunger.

Um, the gain, especially right now
that I'm on so much, I've like,

the carbs just keep on going up.

And even this week I'm like, gosh,
I still haven't gained weight.

Um, and I'm just like,

I want to eat everything,
not just the carbohydrates.

So it's very difficult to, I think
it's more difficult to stay in

that discipline of going, no, you
can't eat everything because you've

already pretty much hit your fats.

You've pretty much
already hit your proteins.

You need the carbohydrates.

Go eat an apple, go eat a banana, go eat
mango, go eat salad, you know, and these

things like you eat them and you're like,
man, it, it just didn't hit the way I

wanted it to, which is a selfish thing.

It was a craving that I'm looking for.

Um, so yeah, it, I mean, I do find
that I go through these periods

of this, uh, this, this in and
out of knowing where I'm at.

Um, and if I find I get cold, um,
focus on a discipline, focus on it.

And Ryan actually said something,
uh, a couple of meetings back.

He brought back up non negotiable.

I tend to start forgetting about the
non negotiable because when you do

them for so long they just become
practice that you sometimes lose

track that you might not have actually
followed through with it all the time.

So, um, I, you know, if you start
feeling yourself getting cold

or something doesn't feel right.

Did I hit my non negotiables?

Did I hit my macros?

Did I hit my discipline?

And you'll start finding
little pieces where you didn't.

And you're like, Oh,
let's get back into it.

And then you're bringing
yourself right back to that fire.

You'll get that momentum going again.

And then you're filling,
you're filling that zone.

And again, the creativity comes back.

The, the energy comes back.

I give myself the goosebumps
just thinking about it.

Ryan Carnohan: Okay.

So let's say you're.

We're, we're, we're actually coming
up to the fire for the first time.

Okay.

Like we're just experiencing it.

How, how, if you're someone that
hasn't quite gotten to the bonfire

yet, what, what would you say are the
steps they need to take to get there?

Like, In the present moment.

Now this might be a weird
question, we're getting into

your figurative brain here, but.

But you know, does this make

Justin Koeppen: sense?

I see what you mean, you
know, um, I personally, Okay.

Is everybody okay first off?

No,

Ryan Carnohan: Ellie,

Justin Koeppen: I was not, I said
it was a bad idea to let, But

then, Ellie said, no, Brynn, fine.

And I said, let me go tell Dad.

Yeah, and they're just like destroying it.

Okay, let everybody know that if
they, whatever mess they make,

they'll have to be picking up, okay?

I gotta fix the couch.

Can you give me like 10 more minutes?

Superhuman fathers right here.

You want to sit down with me real quick?

The house is destroyed.

You want to sit down with me right now?

Ryan Carnohan: This is an
Olympic moment right here.

Dude, multi

Justin Koeppen: tasking like a savage.

Show them your, show
them your muscles, bud.

You've been working on yours too.

Pow.

Um, anyway, so let me, let me,
let me finish that thought.

Uh, so when I hear this.

Um, it gives me this, uh, I didn't,
I didn't take, it didn't take me

very much to get close to that fire.

Uh, I jumped right into it.

And I would say if you're having trouble
getting close to that fire, if you're

having trouble, I would venture to guess.

There is some type of fear, um,
stopping you from getting closer.

Um, you know, just like
any fire, it's hot.

Um, and you don't know how hot it's
going to be the closer you get to it.

But you do know the closer you get
to it, you are going to get hotter.

And it is going to get hotter.

Um, and I, there might be a fear.

Um, and I, I would say the one thing
I didn't do is I, I didn't fear.

I just trusted.

that this was going to work.

Um, I didn't ask.

I didn't, I didn't fear.

I, I mean, I, I, I didn't even, I
didn't even discuss it with my wife,

which I'm glad I didn't actually.

It's the one thing I'm like, boy,
I'm glad I followed on that one.

Cause she would have tried to gear
me away from it just because of,

uh, just because of money alone.

And, um, go ahead.

Um, and And, uh, but I, I would have
ventured to guess that if you're

getting if you're having trouble
finding that fire finding that zone,

I would venture to guess that there's
probably a fear and find that fear

and then be fearless against it.

You know, you're, you're going to
have to find ways to, uh, To overcome,

um, and believe in yourself, um, or
at least even if you don't believe

in yourself yet, um, take the chance
because you will eventually you'll

Ryan Carnohan: get there.

Wow.

Okay.

Uh, I don't even, I'm speechless.

And feeling very grateful right now.

We know that your kids are maybe
need their dad pretty soon.

I'm going to take one moment to say one
thing and then we'll take any questions.

Okay.

I want you guys to think
about what he just said.

That was so fire.

No pun intended.

Okay.

I mean, that was money and I want you
to think about where the fire is for

you, that you're straying away from.

Is it when you're so hungry?

Cause you're about to break through
your plateau and there's that moment.

That you have to decide to follow through
or you're going to break your, you're

going to break your macros and not break
through the plateau because you were,

you didn't get close enough to the fire.

You stepped away from it.

Is it what Justin just showed
us with the kids, right?

Patience, love, kindness, even
when you're tired with your wife,

stick next to the fire boys.

Absolutely epic.

All right.

Any questions?

Chad Davis says.

How does his wife feel about him
being dangerously handsome Now?

.
Justin Koeppen: Oh man.

Alright.

Alright,

Ryan Carnohan: let's go.

Let's hear it.

Justin Koeppen: Let's hear it.

So, so this, this is some fun stuff.

Tell me your kids' ears . Uh, my,
so my wife loves showing me off.

Now, I'll tell you that she, she,
like, once, she loves to travel, but

she's even more engaged on like, let's
go to pools, let's go to the beach,

let's go do this, let's go do that.

Um, she loves showing me off.

She hasn't felt that way since
we were in college because I

was still playing division one
water polo when we got married.

Um, and And I was, you know,
I was good looking then.

Um, but yeah, no, she's, uh,
she hasn't done that since.

Um, on top of that, uh, she does
get very, for those of you that have

wives like this, my wife's an RN.

Um, so, you know, there's a lot of, like,
medical science knowledge in her brain

that, uh, that I might be going against.

Um, And she gets very nervous about
certain things like my five o'clock, you

know, five, five hours of sleep a night.

Um, she's nervous that at six years
old that I'm going to have like a

heart attack or a stroke because of
years of doing five hours of sleep.

Um, but I do know that because of my
consistencies, she's able to be more,

uh, she is able to be more, um, You know,
in a conversation with me, and I'm able

to be more in a conversation with her,
and, and that's something that we're

getting better and better at practice
that, so it's going to go on for a

lifetime, um, and, uh, sure, you know,
at some point your body does slow down

a little bit, um, but, you know, We'll,
we'll, we'll talk about that point when

that point comes, um, but until then.

Not yet, bro.

Not yet, bro.

Yeah, until then.

We'll just keep on going.

Ryan Carnohan: Straight fire.

Any other questions?

Justin Koeppen: All right, should we shut?

I don't have any questions.

I just wanted to say, dude, I
appreciate the, uh, the honesty

and the vulnerability, man.

I, uh, I related to a lot of things
you said, um, I kind of related

to the, you know, it took me a
couple months to get dialed into

Ryan Carnohan: this.

Hold on, Cory.

Hold on.

I was gonna, I literally was
gonna call on you next to talk.

This is crazy.

Just go on.

Hell yeah.

This is exactly what we're
gonna talk about, dude.

Weigh it on us.

I want to know what changed, why.

Let's go.

Yeah,

Justin Koeppen: wavelength.

Wavelength, bro.

Um, I, no, I just, I appreciate the
vulnerability because I relate to that.

I think I spent, you know, probably
two or three months making excuses.

I'd be really good for
like three, four days.

And then I would just, I would
always have an excuse, you know,

I was, I was too busy at work.

I didn't sleep enough.

Uh, it's too stressed at work.

Um.

You know, I was moving.

Uh, I got in an argument with my wife.

Um, you know, I had all these excuses
why I couldn't be consistent and,

uh, man, I, I started to hate myself.

Like, like I'd be rude, you know, rude
and, and kind of, you know, just a jerk

to my wife or my kids and she would
call me out on it and, you know, I'd get

frustrated or mad and it was, it was,
it was because I felt bad about myself.

So I think, you know, there's
probably, we probably could talk for

two hours about the, the, uh, the
psychology of that, of that sentiment.

But, but anyways, man,
I, I just appreciate your

vulnerability, your honesty.

Cause you know, the last three weeks I,
I've only been pretty consistent for two

and a half weeks now, and I can already
tell that there's a big, big change

in my life, just the way I feel about
myself, which allows me to be the person

I want to be for my wife and my kids.

Um, and this is profound.

This is profound.

This is the center of the philosophy
of Superhuman Fathers right here.

You just tapped it.

You just figured it out.

It's, it's, it's taken a
lot of, uh, encouragement.

You know, I've had, uh, you know, uh,
Ryan has been, like, literally in my

ear for three months, just, not in a,
not in a brash or harsh way, but, like,

Like, just, hey, he's like, I'm always
here, I'm gonna always keep encouraging

you, and then, you know, a couple other
buddies, Riley and Chris, that just, uh,

that, that, you know, they, they've seen
the fire, they've lived the fire, and

they know that, hey, you gotta live it.

You have to live it.

So, appreciate the honesty and
the, uh, vulnerability, man.

Wow.

And Justin, please let us know when your
book of analogies and parables comes out.

I would like to buy that.

I love that fire analogy.

That's

Ryan Carnohan: awesome.

He's always got a good one.

Justin Koeppen: Yeah, I'm
borrowing that one for sure.

Ryan Carnohan: Um,

Justin Koeppen: all right,
let's close it up, guys.

Uh, by the way, we have to
share this with the world, guys.

Like, we, we must.

Like, this has to go rampant.

In fact, these Transformation
Tuesdays, we have to turn them into

a podcast because anyone that listens
to these will change their lives.

It's

Ryan Carnohan: just

Justin Koeppen: incredible.

We have to.

Yeah.

I, uh, I accidentally shared it today.

I, uh, I saw a guy at the gym
today that I haven't seen.

I mean, he doesn't come to the
gym every day like I do, right?

And I think I saw him in February, maybe,
like, right when I first signed up.

Working on a bench and I needed the
bench and whatever I saw him today and

he said, Hey, do you have a brother
weighs a little bit more than you?

I said, No, no, no, no, I do
not have a fat twin brother.

That was me, sir.

He's like, What are you doing?

And I told him, you
know, superhuman fathers

Ryan Carnohan: and I
sent the Facebook page.

So

Justin Koeppen: we'll see his name is Gus.

So we'll see if he shows up,
but it was pretty comical.

I love it, man.

Ryan Carnohan: Amazing.

We are the walking representative

Justin Koeppen: of the
message as we have our

Ryan Carnohan: transformation.

If you doubt at all your
impact, please put that to bed.

Thousands are coming because
of you, individually.

So, if you don't, their lives are
gonna be shit and it's your fault.

No, no big deal.

No, no pressure.

Justin Koeppen: I can't wait to share
this, this particular discussion

with Justin with the world.

Like, I, like, we have to, we have
to put his, his analogies out there.

We have to put his voice,
like, he's amazing.

Like, he's it.

The epitome of what a
superhuman father is.

Amen to that.

Hey, thank you guys.

I actually, I do need to get to my tits.

They've been waiting.

I appreciate you guys time and thank
you for inviting me to, you know,

share my, uh, my two cents, you know.

Right on,

Ryan Carnohan: Justin.

Thanks, man.

Thanks, Justin.

Appreciate it.

Thank you so much, Justin.

Thank you.

Keep getting after it.

Let's go.

See at 2 45?

I dunno.

Justin Koeppen: Three o'clock.

Three o'clock.

Three o'clock.

Three o'clock, okay.

The school, the school year
will be back to two 30.

baby.

Step baby steps for me here.

I'm, I'm going for the four 30.

Still baby steps for me,
but baby steps is good.

Baby steps is good.

Progressively

Ryan Carnohan: outta time.

Justin Koeppen: That's right.

That's, thanks fellas.

Wow.

See ya.

Ah.

Alright boys.

Um, wow.

Ryan Carnohan: That's all I have to say.

I'm, I'm overwhelmed.

Like, I don't, I don't even know.

Yeah, this

Justin Koeppen: is, this is
an amazing life and amazing

Ryan Carnohan: adventure.

And, um, thanks everyone.

Yeah.

Justin Koeppen: Thank you.

Wow.

We'll catch you guys tomorrow night on

Ryan Carnohan: the, in the book club.

Yeah, I'll see you in the book club.

We'll see what happens.

Ryan.

Yes, Chad, you monster.

Dude, are we, are

Justin Koeppen: we, are we
doing the book tomorrow?

Ryan Carnohan: Or are
we doing the podcast?

I never sent out the podcast, dude.

You sent it out, but I mean, should
I send it out tonight and just be

like, you know, I'm so sorry, and
I haven't even listened to it.

No, no, no, it's all good.

No, it's not okay.

Let's just

Justin Koeppen: do it.

I said I would.

Ryan, maybe if you would get up earlier,
you'd have time to do some shit.

Ryan Carnohan: Jeez, dude.

If I got up at 2.

45.

Dude, this podcast, though, everyone,
everyone's listened to it, has loved it.

This one episode that Chad.

I have

Justin Koeppen: it in
my, I have it in my mix.

I haven't, I haven't
watched, listened to it yet.

Ryan Carnohan: So you tell me,
Chad, you want, you just want

to talk about it tomorrow?

Just, we just go for it.

It's, it's an easy listen.

Once

Justin Koeppen: you start
it, you won't be able to

Ryan Carnohan: stop it.

So like, you got to power through

Justin Koeppen: that sucker and just like,
listen to the content and you'll, you'll

be able to freestyle off that sucker

Ryan Carnohan: for hours.

All right, dude.

Let's just, we'll, I'll
have, I'll have double.

Okay.

Hey.

If you're still in here, I'll chat, chat.

Actually.

Can you repost the podcast
again, dude, I'm on it.

I'm on repost it and be
like, Hey, Ryan failed.

We'll forgive him, but you need to
listen to this and so I'll have something

from the book as well, just, you
know, but we'll, we'll focus it around

the podcast and I'll listen to that.

I'll listen to it.

Um, I'll listen, I'll
buy, buy, buy Zoom time.

It will have been listened to.

Yeah, and dude,

Justin Koeppen: like, let's be
honest, like, it all, it all, it all

parlays into the pot, the book anyway.

I mean, it's all,

Ryan Carnohan: it's all
kind of weaved in there.

That's why it was so good.

Yeah, absolutely.

Um, Fire, and 233, what are
we, 233, are we, we're going,

we're, where are we at, dawg?

Dude, I'm so bad

Justin Koeppen: at waking up

Ryan Carnohan: early that I
literally go to bed at 2am sometimes.

No, I'm talking about your weight.

No, dude.

Yeah, I'm like in the low 230s.

Yeah.

Justin Koeppen: Dude,
220s are coming, bro.

Ryan Carnohan: I know.

I'm kicking myself.

That

Justin Koeppen: conversation about, uh,
getting held to the fire a little bit.

Ryan Carnohan: I was like,
oh, I feel convicted.

Hey, me too, bro.

You're supposed to.

Come on, we all do.

It was money, dude.

You know who else felt convicted?

Justin.

That's why he said it.

Justin Koeppen: Right, right
before that, I ate one tiny little

Ryan Carnohan: extra piece
of, uh, I saw you chewing on

something I knew was beef jerky.

No, it was tri tip.

Justin Koeppen: I ate the blood of
the tri tip and I didn't measure it.

I was like, I don't, I don't like,

Oh, dang bro.

Ryan Carnohan: Dang the Zoom too.

Dude,

Justin Koeppen: most likely it was only
15 grams, dude, just log that crap.

Ryan Carnohan: Yep, Kyle, you
know this is recorded, right?

Uh oh, the world knows.

Hey, man,

Justin Koeppen: I suffer and
struggle just like you guys, man.

Ryan Carnohan: Alright boys, hey
Chad, post that podcast again, okay?

And hey, call everybody
out when you do it.

Just be like, hey, everyone
needs to listen to this.

I'll say it too.

Okay.

All right.

Good love on

Justin Koeppen: your family, boys.

Peace out.

Peace.

Kyle Carnohan: I hope you enjoyed
this transformation from Superhuman

Fathers, and one thing I want you
to know is that anyone can do this.

Yes, even you.

Go to superhuman fathers.com and
apply for the Brotherhood right now.

Mike Jones: it's going from, I'd say
probably drinking four days a week.

And, uh, I was off four days a week.

So drinking every day I'm home, um, I can
fast food, breakfast, burritos, nachos.

Um, donuts.

I had a nickname at work.

They called me donut fucker.

Uh, sorry, the foul language,
but that was my nickname.

Uh, wonder why I got it.

Right.

That guy likes donuts.

Surprise.

Um, So I said screw it, all in, right?

And then typical alpha dudes at the fire
department, you know, like, Oh yeah, let's

see, Mike's gonna lose weight, give it a
week, give it two weeks, see what happens.

And uh, cold turkey, everything.

No alcohol, no cheat meals,
no cheat days, um, no breaks.